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Note to Craigslist people: Please, please, if you post an ad of an apartment for rent, remember to include the actual rent price in your ad. The fact that you didn't may be one reason why your ad hasn't been terribly successful so far. The other reason is probably that nobody wants to pay $725 for an apartment that isn't worth that. I paid $500 for an identical studio in the same building for the same amount of time last year, sorry, not falling for it.
Oh, and I said I would meet you at three. Not three thirty or four, and don't try to make out like I wasn't clear, cause I was. Because you weren't there, I ended up getting a frigging parking ticket. Not only did I not get the apartment, I ended up losing $25 for absolutely no reason.
So on GodawfulForum #2 they were discussing "What the characters would be doing ten years after their book series". Here's my thoughts:
Kaya’s story starts in 1764, so in ten years, it’ll be 1774, which is the same year Felicity’s story starts. In 1774, the Revolution was gearing up, but Kaya lives in the Pacific Northwest, a part of the country that was not a part of the country at the time and hadn’t been explored by the British (from whose point of view most pre independence American history is told). In fact, will Kaya even know there’s a war going on? She is probably married, with children, apprenticing in a craft under the tutelage of some older woman.
Ten years after 1774 is 1784
Felicity is married to Ben Davidson, with children. They own and operate her grandfather’s Virginia plantation, and raise prizewinning racehorses on the side. Ben got a leg or foot blown off by a cannon during the war and all her grandfather’s slaves ran away in the chaos.
Elizabeth has to move away when the Revolution starts- either back to England, up to Canada, or to some place like the Caribbean. She grows up to be a perfect English lady*, and makes a suitable marriage to a gentleman of means. She and Felicity never see each other again. It is not discussed.
1824 is Josephina. I can’t make predictions for a doll I don’t know much about.
1854 is Kirsten’s year. In ten years, her story will slam right into Addy’s, which should give you an idea of the sort of world Kirsten will come of age in.
1864- 1874 is Addy, but since I don’t know Addy’s story…. The Civil War is my least favorite period of US history.
1904 is Samantha. In 1914, Samantha is an up and coming painter, educated in Europe, debutante, in a Boston Marriage with Nellie. Countless obnoxious wealthy men court her, and don’t understand why she rejects them all. They are frustrated that she won’t give up this suffragette nonsense. Nellie is a NYC teacher, probably working with immigrants.
1904+ 10=1914 which is coincidentally, wait for it, Rebecca’s starting year! Ten years after that is 1924 – there’s no doll for that year. In 1924, either Rebecca or Ana brings their favorite teacher, Miss O’Malley, over to meet their family. Nellie gets them even more into things like women’s liberation and labor rights. Much, much later, decades later, Rebecca goes on to be a major Hollywood superstar of the Golden Age of the Silver Screen, but when the McCarthy hearings start, she comes under suspicion for her ties to Lower East Side labor unions.
1934, Kit’s year. In ten years, it’ll be 1944.
Stirling ends up marrying Ruthie to get his family out of debt. Stirling is gay, of course, and Ruthie isn’t too bright, but they’ve been friends forever so they’re able to fool Ruthie’s dad. Stirling ends up in WWII, trying to prove his manhood. He is in Mr. McIntire’s (Molly’s dad’s) unit somewhere in Europe. They are both killed. At a reunion of the family members of the soldiers from that unit, Ruthie meets Molly’s brother and falls in love again. Kit goes on to be a well respected political journalist, who eventually covers Rebecca’s HUAC trial.
1944+ 10 is 1954, which there is no doll for. Molly’s a nurse and Girl Scout leader. Emily went back to England and they never spoke again because they weren’t friends in the book in the first place.
1964-no doll but awesomely interesting time to be alive.
Ten years after 1964 is 1974, Julie’s year.
1984- no official doll. I have one in the planning stages, but it’s all my own work. Ten years after their last book, however, Julie and Ivy will be cool 80s teenagers, the first dolls in the series who are given the luxury of being teenagers with no wars or Depressions or expectations that they will marry/go to work as soon as possible. That's what they'll be doing. Being teenagers. But since they live in San Francisco, there will be stuff about the AIDs crisis and gay rights and things like that. If Julie or Ivy has a kid, their child might have graduated high school last year.
footnotes:
**this is what bothered me about Very Funny, Elizabeth. Elizabeth doesn’t want to go back to England and learn to be a lady, so she sabotages her sister’s marriage plans. Annabelle was going to bring Elizabeth back with her and Lord Whatisface so Elizabeth would be safe from the mounting Colonial violence. Elizabeth doesn’t want to leave Felicity*. Which, while I can understand the sentiment, is a very stupid move on Elizabeth’s part.
1) Because things are getting dangerous in the Colonies. While no one wants to think that either side would purposely have hurt a little girl, it was war and things happened. Elizabeth is a child, she doesn’t understand what’s going on, but she will very shortly. And unless she marries into (or otherwise obtains the legal protection of) a colonial family as soon as she’s legally able- or convinces her parents to change sides, she’s leaving in a couple of years and she has no choice in the matter anyway.
2) Whatever we may think of it now, one of the purposes of marriage in that time was to advance your family’s prospects. Not to take this into consideration was thought of as selfish and not only that, it could cause a great deal of social damage. If you were a girl, you owed it to your family to make a good match with someone of equal or higher, station. Not to do so, especially if you had no brothers (and Elizabeth has no brothers) could mean disaster for your family’s future. This wasn’t something taken lightly at the time and certainly not among the wealthy. And it’s not even her own marriage prospects Elizabeth ruined, it was her sister’s!
**it’s confusing to have two fandoms where there are at least three characters with the same names. And Felicity Merriman also has a little sister named Polly.
So, we can probably conclude that the next doll from AG will be out of one of the following years: (excluding 84 and 94, since they’re not really historical enough). Providing the definition of “American Girl” is “dates from arrival of the British”, although it’d be great to see a little Aztec (and they weren’t simple nomads like Kaya’s people, they had the option of living very cosmopolitan and luxurious lives,which gives AG more of an opportunity for clothes, furniture, toys and jewelry *and* another “Native American” doll without repeating themselves).
1784- 1794- 1804- 1814- 1834- 1844- 1884- 1894- 1924-1954-1964- I have no idea what was going on during some of those years, except 1894, 1924, 1954, and 1964.
OR 1624 (DUDE, PILGRIM!)-1634-1644-1654-1664-1674-1684-1
ETA: I meant cannon not canon.
Oh, and I said I would meet you at three. Not three thirty or four, and don't try to make out like I wasn't clear, cause I was. Because you weren't there, I ended up getting a frigging parking ticket. Not only did I not get the apartment, I ended up losing $25 for absolutely no reason.
So on GodawfulForum #2 they were discussing "What the characters would be doing ten years after their book series". Here's my thoughts:
Kaya’s story starts in 1764, so in ten years, it’ll be 1774, which is the same year Felicity’s story starts. In 1774, the Revolution was gearing up, but Kaya lives in the Pacific Northwest, a part of the country that was not a part of the country at the time and hadn’t been explored by the British (from whose point of view most pre independence American history is told). In fact, will Kaya even know there’s a war going on? She is probably married, with children, apprenticing in a craft under the tutelage of some older woman.
Ten years after 1774 is 1784
Felicity is married to Ben Davidson, with children. They own and operate her grandfather’s Virginia plantation, and raise prizewinning racehorses on the side. Ben got a leg or foot blown off by a cannon during the war and all her grandfather’s slaves ran away in the chaos.
Elizabeth has to move away when the Revolution starts- either back to England, up to Canada, or to some place like the Caribbean. She grows up to be a perfect English lady*, and makes a suitable marriage to a gentleman of means. She and Felicity never see each other again. It is not discussed.
1824 is Josephina. I can’t make predictions for a doll I don’t know much about.
1854 is Kirsten’s year. In ten years, her story will slam right into Addy’s, which should give you an idea of the sort of world Kirsten will come of age in.
1864- 1874 is Addy, but since I don’t know Addy’s story…. The Civil War is my least favorite period of US history.
1904 is Samantha. In 1914, Samantha is an up and coming painter, educated in Europe, debutante, in a Boston Marriage with Nellie. Countless obnoxious wealthy men court her, and don’t understand why she rejects them all. They are frustrated that she won’t give up this suffragette nonsense. Nellie is a NYC teacher, probably working with immigrants.
1904+ 10=1914 which is coincidentally, wait for it, Rebecca’s starting year! Ten years after that is 1924 – there’s no doll for that year. In 1924, either Rebecca or Ana brings their favorite teacher, Miss O’Malley, over to meet their family. Nellie gets them even more into things like women’s liberation and labor rights. Much, much later, decades later, Rebecca goes on to be a major Hollywood superstar of the Golden Age of the Silver Screen, but when the McCarthy hearings start, she comes under suspicion for her ties to Lower East Side labor unions.
1934, Kit’s year. In ten years, it’ll be 1944.
Stirling ends up marrying Ruthie to get his family out of debt. Stirling is gay, of course, and Ruthie isn’t too bright, but they’ve been friends forever so they’re able to fool Ruthie’s dad. Stirling ends up in WWII, trying to prove his manhood. He is in Mr. McIntire’s (Molly’s dad’s) unit somewhere in Europe. They are both killed. At a reunion of the family members of the soldiers from that unit, Ruthie meets Molly’s brother and falls in love again. Kit goes on to be a well respected political journalist, who eventually covers Rebecca’s HUAC trial.
1944+ 10 is 1954, which there is no doll for. Molly’s a nurse and Girl Scout leader. Emily went back to England and they never spoke again because they weren’t friends in the book in the first place.
1964-no doll but awesomely interesting time to be alive.
Ten years after 1964 is 1974, Julie’s year.
1984- no official doll. I have one in the planning stages, but it’s all my own work. Ten years after their last book, however, Julie and Ivy will be cool 80s teenagers, the first dolls in the series who are given the luxury of being teenagers with no wars or Depressions or expectations that they will marry/go to work as soon as possible. That's what they'll be doing. Being teenagers. But since they live in San Francisco, there will be stuff about the AIDs crisis and gay rights and things like that. If Julie or Ivy has a kid, their child might have graduated high school last year.
footnotes:
**this is what bothered me about Very Funny, Elizabeth. Elizabeth doesn’t want to go back to England and learn to be a lady, so she sabotages her sister’s marriage plans. Annabelle was going to bring Elizabeth back with her and Lord Whatisface so Elizabeth would be safe from the mounting Colonial violence. Elizabeth doesn’t want to leave Felicity*. Which, while I can understand the sentiment, is a very stupid move on Elizabeth’s part.
1) Because things are getting dangerous in the Colonies. While no one wants to think that either side would purposely have hurt a little girl, it was war and things happened. Elizabeth is a child, she doesn’t understand what’s going on, but she will very shortly. And unless she marries into (or otherwise obtains the legal protection of) a colonial family as soon as she’s legally able- or convinces her parents to change sides, she’s leaving in a couple of years and she has no choice in the matter anyway.
2) Whatever we may think of it now, one of the purposes of marriage in that time was to advance your family’s prospects. Not to take this into consideration was thought of as selfish and not only that, it could cause a great deal of social damage. If you were a girl, you owed it to your family to make a good match with someone of equal or higher, station. Not to do so, especially if you had no brothers (and Elizabeth has no brothers) could mean disaster for your family’s future. This wasn’t something taken lightly at the time and certainly not among the wealthy. And it’s not even her own marriage prospects Elizabeth ruined, it was her sister’s!
**it’s confusing to have two fandoms where there are at least three characters with the same names. And Felicity Merriman also has a little sister named Polly.
So, we can probably conclude that the next doll from AG will be out of one of the following years: (excluding 84 and 94, since they’re not really historical enough). Providing the definition of “American Girl” is “dates from arrival of the British”, although it’d be great to see a little Aztec (and they weren’t simple nomads like Kaya’s people, they had the option of living very cosmopolitan and luxurious lives,which gives AG more of an opportunity for clothes, furniture, toys and jewelry *and* another “Native American” doll without repeating themselves).
1784- 1794- 1804- 1814- 1834- 1844- 1884- 1894- 1924-1954-1964- I have no idea what was going on during some of those years, except 1894, 1924, 1954, and 1964.
OR 1624 (DUDE, PILGRIM!)-1634-1644-1654-1664-1674-1684-1
ETA: I meant cannon not canon.